It's quite clear that just because you call yourself "progressive," it doesn't mean you respect women one bit. I've been around the net the past few days and the sexism and hatred being spewed by Obama supporters is absolutely stunning. And then they want us to back up Obama, unite, and support the "progressive agenda." Right. And then they honestly think we'll buy into their scare tactics that sexism will get "worse" under McCain. Is that a threat? Honey, it can't get any worse. You guys are already wayyy over the top.
Here's a comment I posted on an article on President She...
You know, what these so-called "progressive" people don't get is that a "progressive agenda" is not on everyone's top list for why they vote.
I vote based on my perception of people's abilities and character. I don't think any politician is perfect, but Obama, in my opinion, is the worst candidate of the three, based on his CHARACTER.
I would rather have McCain in office, as much as I disagree with him, because I believe that man stands for something other than himself. Whereas Obama claims he's progressive but has no record to back it up and will happily take away votes from people when it suits him.
Never mind the fact that he can't come up with any original talking points and fails in all debates - Hillary wipes the floor with him on intelligence and grasp of issues alone.
And never mind Obama's church - which is a whole other ball of wax. Anyone who would vote for a candidate going to a church like that has serious issues.
And if the angry pro-Obama people here are any indication of what we can expect under a "progressive" administration, I'll say no thank you. I have never in my life seen such horrible, hateful people as Obama supporters.
The sexism, by the way, is not directly from Obama himself but the MEDIA as well as Obama supporters. Just today I saw a bunch of young men posting comments on the video of the woman who got bruised at the DNC meeting. The comments called her and Hillary supporters "bitches." She was also "post-menopausal," fat, had "flabby arms," and possibly a "carpet muncher" who never had anyone touch her. The comments were downright vile and hateful.
One Obama supporter put up a video in response to an old woman protesting and the entire content of it was "f*** you, f*** you, f*** you."
If this is your idea of "progressive," you guys can take it and shove it up your @#$@.
I'll take four more years of a Republican in the White House rather than give power to people like you guys. You are hateful, sexist, and think you own the world. Well, guess what, you don't, and you and your candidate will lose come fall (IF Obama wins the nomination, which I am not sure is a given, considering all his skeletons in the closet.)
Monday, June 2, 2008
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My attitude is keep them talking. They will f... themselves by talking better than we could by criticizing them. Anyone who goes online and sees the pro-Obama people acting up is sure to lose their appetite.
As an Obama supporter with a strong desire to see a Democrat win this year, I have been spending some time on various pro-Hillary sites lately to see for myself how bad the rift is among some folks in the party. Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed at how poorly some of the folks on my side are conducting themselves. Suffice it to say that while I have some differences of opinion about who would make the better President and why, I can't defend or condone the disrepectful way the press and some others have treated Hillary. In a close race, it may well have made the difference - just as Obama could have pointed to similar regrettable circumstances if the roles had been reversed. I hope that Obama can justify some of the expectations I have for him by acknowledging the real problems this has caused, and finding some gracious way of responding to the concerns of Hillary's passionate constituents.
The kind of hatred and sexism you cited is never acceptable, ever, and should never be tolerated. Any woman who has ever left her house has likely had nasty things shouted at her while she walked down the block simply because she is a woman. It has happened to me and to every woman I know, and it honestly makes me sick to think that it will happen to my daughter when she gets older.
So I ask you please, please, please do not paint the majority of Obama supporters with this brush. Just because there are some sexist pigs out there who still think it is acceptable to talk about/to women like this (losers on the net or talking heads in the media) does not mean that ALL, or even the vast majority, of Obama supporters are like this. Everyone I know from my grandparents (in their 80s) on down are Obama supporters but would never, and DO NOT, ever condone this kind of behavior. And please do not think that, just because you can't hear us doing it, we are not speaking out against this kind of behavior because we are and we will continue to do so.
To think that there are people putting me, my family, my friends in the same category as a bunch of sexist pigs who should not be worth our time makes me ill. This really is guilt by association of the worst kind and I am asking Clinton supporters to not generalize this way. There will always be ignorant people in the world, and there are ignorant people who are Obama supporters and who are Clinton supporters. But the vast majority of supporters of both candidates are not like this, no matter what we see in the blogosphere or the few talking heads who make money by saying controversial things. We would all be wise to remember this.
You know, I do appreciate the Obama supporters here saying they don't approve of the sexism, but I think it's too little, too late. It's been going on for a long time and I have seen too much tacit acceptance of it. I also find the constant cries of "racism," coupled with the constant dismissal of anything relating to sexism, to be self-serving.
With that, I have a hard time finding any positive feelings for Obama supporters as a whole. I realize that not all are sexist but the group mind has just become nasty and anti-woman in my opinion.
I have no doubt that many of the people who voted for Obama are very decent. The problem is almost all of Obama's public surrogates are demonstrably indecent. The amount of screed and hate speech from the Obama camp speaks volumes about this particular candidate. He is incapable of influencing his own supporters for the better. Many of us cannot, in good conscience, support his candidacy because of the tactics of smear and intimidation used and obviously sanctioned by Obama.
"Hold on, Sweetie" Thats what Obama said to a female (of course, think he would say such a thing to a man?) reporter.
I can't believe that after the heartbreak of 2004, and the all-encompassing animosity I felt towards REpublicans en masse, I am now prepared to vote for one. But I think McCain is no less than what the Democratic party deserves for what it did to Hillary.
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